Richard Howard
Without Saying
Turtle Point Press
Interview conducted
by Craig Morgan
Teicher.
Craig Morgan Teicher:
What does the National Book Award nomination mean to
you?
Richard
Howard: There are a lot of good books
of poetry published every year, and this one was chosen
by a group of serious judges as one of some value, and
that pleases me. It pleases me especially to be on a
list with those two that I’m very familiar with
and have known for many years—Frank Bidart and
Mark Doty. I’ve cared deeply about Frank’s
work from the beginning. I published his first book
when I was editing the poetry series for Braziller Books,
and we’ve been friends ever since. I met Mark
years and years ago. He managed to do something that
in American poetry is very rare—he has a wonderful
sense of decoration and surface—very grand. There’s
a sense that we belong together.
CMT: You’ve been
pretty prolific lately—what’s special to
you about this book?
RH:
In it I try to do all the things that
I like to do in poetry. There are two kinds of poems
of voice that are new to me. One of them is leading
to the next book, which will be all the poems of that
5th grade class of the progressive school—in this
book it’s called “School Days,” and
there are four poems. In the next book those four will
be joined by eight others. I’m very excited about
that. I feel that this book is a kind of harbinger of
things to come, as well as representing other kinds
of poems that I have always written and that appeal
to me very strongly.
CMT :Can you talk a
bit about the genesis of the “School Days”
poems, which are partly inspired by your own early education
at a progressive school?
RH:
Three books back I had written a poem
about a visit to New York where the 5th grade class
came to examine the dinosaurs in the American Museum
of Natural History—it was called “Our Spring
Trip.” Then a year ago I was in the hospital with
a back operation—I came out of that very well,
but I had never had a general anesthetic before, and
I was quite knocked out by it and rather bewildered
and I remember lying in bed and thinking about my school
days and that 5th grade class, and that poem came back
to me. Then I felt, there’s really more to be
said—I can hear those voices, I know those kids,
we had a life together that was really very intense.
The minute I got out of the hospital, I began writing
those poems. I don’t think I would have written
them if I hadn’t had some kind of calling up short
from my own life, which turned me back to voices of
long ago.
CMT: Joy seems to be
one of the guiding principals of your work. I feel like
that’s pretty rare—has it always been easy
for you to give yourself permission to follow those
impulses?
RH:
I guess so. I really like to entertain, and I have found
that I get tremendous pleasure out of knowing that people
enjoy the poems. I don’t know it very well except
when I read the poems aloud, and I sometimes get a response
from an audience that tells me that they do enjoy them.
I’ve even tried to perform in such a way that
I would have to know that they enjoyed it. I guess that
that’s a rather peculiar principle, but it is
one that guides me, and in fact it gets repeated in
my work with my students at Columbia and the other places
where I’ve taught. I say to my students as a carry-on
from the things that I say to myself: “What do
you expect a reader to do with this poem if he doesn’t
get some kind of pleasure out of it?” That principle
is very powerful in me.
Craig
Morgan Teicher is a poet, critic, and freelance writer.
His first book of poems, Brenda Is In The Room And
Other Poems, was chosen by Paul Hoover as winner
of the 2007 Colorado Prize for Poetry and was published
by the Center for Literary Publishing. His collection
of short stories and fables, called Cradle Book,
will be published in spring 2010 by BOA Editions Ltd.
www.craigmorganteicher.com
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