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| Courtesy
of Disney-Hyperion |
E. Lockhart
The Disreputable
History of Frankie Landau-Banks
Hyperion
Interview conducted
by Rita Williams-Garcia.
Rita Williams-Garcia:
Frankie is a ground breaking heroine. We can’t
help but admire her gamesmanship and ambition. Who,
in the fictional or non-fictional world would she admire?
EL:
I'm glad you admire Frankie -- I think
there is much to admire in her -- but I also think she's
a problematic person, not a role model so much as a
character whose internal and external conflicts remain
unresolved.
She might admire Jessica Mitford,
the famous "muckracker" journalist and author
of The American Way of Death. Not for Mitford's
communism, but for her fearless intellect. She would
also admire the late David Foster Wallace for his linguistic
pyrotechnics.
RWG: Invisibility and
being seen in the wrong light by family and peers is
at times a grace, an advantage, and a pain. I can’t
help but feel Frankie wants to be known for her abilities
more than she wants to be a part of any group. My sense
is The Order would lose its fascination if she were
let in—unless she could become its head dog.
EL:
Yes, that's true. At least
one reviewer wrote that Disreputable History was
a book about wanting to belong -- and I thought, "No,
Frankie doesn't want to belong. She wants to lead and
have followers!" It's quite a different thing.
Frankie makes use of
her invisibility, but at the same time, she resents
it hugely.
RWG: While some of the characterizations might
have felt familiar, they certainly weren’t typical,
starting with vocab hunk boyfriend, Matthew Livingston.
Tell us about him, or another character in Frankie's
sphere.
EL:
Thank you. Matthew is a better-looking
composite of many guys I knew in high school and college.
(I went to prep school and then to Vassar, both on scholarship).
I wanted to write about the strong appeal that some
extremely privileged people have; not because they are
wealthy, but because they are so deeply secure in their
social position. Their status affords them a lot of
leeway to be goofy, to be relaxed, to be generous --
and they are very compelling as a result. I met a lot
of such people in the schools I went to -- and I wanted
to explore their social power, both the pull of it,
and the negative elements of it. Matthew's "inner
copyeditor" is probably the only trait he and I
share. Giving him that quality was a way of getting
myself to identify with him and the unconscious condescension
he practices in dealing with Frankie.
Rita
Williams-Garcia is the author of six distinguished novels
for young adults: Jumped, No Laughter Here, Every
Time a Rainbow Dies, Fast Talk on a Slow Track, Blue
Tights, and Like Sisters on the Homefront.
She has also published a picture book and has contributed
to numerous anthologies. Williams-Garcia's works have
been recognized by the Coretta Scott King Award Committee,
the PEN/Norma Klein Award, the American Library Association,
and Parents' Choice, among others. She recently served
on the National Book Award Committee for Young People's
Literature and is on faculty at Vermont College for
the MFA in Writing for Children & Young Adults program.
Rita Williams-Garcia lives in Jamaica, Queens, NY and
is the mother of two daughters.
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